Emunah: Reb Elchonon's Approach part 3

To explore the motivations behind belief and the role of secular knowledge in faith.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://rygb.blogspot.com/2026/11/emunah-reb-elchonons-approach-part-3.html

I moved this series to Avodah because I think it deserves critical discussion.

Making this an absolute statement is very problematic to me.

As is ascribing a single motive to any individual’s decision, never mind to the full set of OTD people.

There are people who feel lied to by their rabbanim, or shot down when they tried to ask a question, or had some other negative reaction to the overly simplified not-quite-Torah perspective someone was teaching them.

How many people can honestly say נער הייתי … ולא רעיתי צדיק נעזב? I mean, simple peshat? If someone were to leave because they found the problem of evil overwhelming?

My kids belong to a huge clique of friends who didn’t make it in Yeshiva because of ADD, hyperactivity, dyslexia, and left the system that made them feel inferior. Add to that their being more ethical and giving than the kids who were getting lauded because they really shteiged. Why go in for a Torah that is all about inferior human beings?

Of course, that goes back to the over-simplified not-quite-Torah problem.

Then, most people don’t think in terms of ideals, but in terms of community. Again you have the seedy underbelly of any community, but what do you expect from their victims? Someone who gets cheated on by two many O establishments or partners… they could well leave, and not because they want freedom from rather than freedom for.

Here is R @YGB’s complete abstract (so far?):

Part 1:

Meeting Purpose

To explore the logical foundations of Jewish faith (Emunah).

Key Takeaways

Part 2:

Meeting Purpose

To explore the psychological roots of disbelief and the nature of divine existence.

Key Takeaways

Part 3:

Meeting Purpose

To explore the motivations behind belief and the role of secular knowledge in faith.

Key Takeaways

And here is RYB’s complete outline (so far?):

Part I

The Paradoxes of Emunah

The shiur opened with four questions from R’ Elchanan Wasserman that highlight the paradoxes of belief.

  1. Emotional vs. Intellectual Nature: The Torah warns against following one’s heart (libo) to avoid heresy. Since heresy is an intellectual error, why is it linked to the heart (emotions) and not the head (intellect)?
  2. Commandability: The Rambam lists belief as the first mitzvah. How can belief be commanded? It is a conclusion, not an action.
  3. Requirement for Youth: How can belief be required for a 12/13-year-old? Even great philosophers like Aristotle failed to reach a complete understanding of God.
  4. Universal Expectation: Non-Jews (Bnei Noach) are commanded to believe in God and the Torah’s origin at Sinai. How can this be expected of someone with no access to Jewish tradition?

The “Muska Rishon” (Basic Logic) Argument

The initial answer is that belief is a simple, logical conclusion from observing the world’s complexity.

Part 2:

The Nature of Divine Existence

The Problem of Disbelief

The Universal Obligation to Believe

Q&A: Specific Challenges to Belief

Part 3:

The Motivation for Belief vs. Denial

The Superiority of Commanded Actions

Secular Knowledge as a Path to Faith