lion king

An Areivim exchange...

what is the origin of the story that the lion is king of the beasts

: According to
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_lions it comes
: from the lion having been a symbol of kingship in the ancient world.

... Doesn't this just beg the question?

I presume RET is asking -- and if not, I am -- was Yaaqov avinu's berakhah
of Yehudah the first association of lions with melukhah? Or did he draw
from some pre-existing part of the ancient world?

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-Micha

Who says he *did* associate lions with melucha? The pesukim don't
make such an association. Unkelus does make that connection,
translating "gur aryeh Yehudah" as a prophecy that royalty will
come to Yehudah, but even there Rashi explains that this means that
a young David will become a mighty king, just as a lion cub becomes
a mighty beast. So the lions there are not really a symbol of
royalty but of might; and Unkelus's treatment of the rest of the
pasuk seems to confirm that.

But all this is about using lions as a symbol of royalty. RET's
question was not about that but about the idea that lions themselves
are kings, and that seems to come from a Xian source.

Lisa Liel wrote:

According to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_lions it comes
from the lion having been a symbol of kingship in the ancient world.

I presume RET is asking -- and if not, I am -- was Yaaqov avinu's
berakhah
of Yehudah the first association of lions with melukhah? Or did he draw
from some pre-existing part of the ancient world?

I can't say with any authority what was in Yaakov Avinu's thoughts
there, but lion imagery in the ancient world certainly does seem to
predate him.

Yes, it does now. As the result of this discussion.