Prayers That The Tzibbur Does Not Say

Avodah
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... I am very surprised to find a tefillah where the individual has
free rein, but the tzibur is restricted. Usually it is the other
way around. There are many tefilos which may be said *only*
b'tzibur, and often only under certain circumstances. For example,
some tefilos are said only on certain days, and some are said only
by the chazan. Here we have a case where the tzibur may say it on
only one particular day, yet the individual can say it anytime.

Are there any other examples of this?

There are plenty of examples of prayers that may be recited by
individuals, and that may not be recited by the tzibbur.

For example, suppose you have asked Sarah Pippik to marry you, and she
has nodded her head and said she'll get back to you on that.
Unquestionably, until you hear back from her with her answer, you are
going to be inserting a private prayer three times a weekday into the
benediction of Shomea` Tefillah, that she say yes to your proposal.
Or maybe you will put your prayer into Xonen Hadda`ath, if you think
that not marrying you indicates a failure of intelligence on her part.
Or maybe you will put your prayer into Rofeh Xoley `Amo Yisrael, if
you are marrying Rn. Pippik because you need a kidney transplant, and
she has the same blood type as you. The point is that individuals are
allowed to utter certain kinds of prayers, that the tzibbur is not
allowed to say.

Now, there are special laws about rain, such that, if an entire
community needs rain, a tzibbur is allowed to ask for it. But that is
only because our Sages have enacted laws permitting it. Otherwise it
would be forbidden. Thus, if there is a local glut of unmarried
people, and the tzibbur needs shiddukhim, the shliax tzibbur may not
insert a prayer for shiddukhim in the repetition of the `Amidah. Or
if the community is suffering from, oh let's say, a plague of frogs,
the shliax tzibbur is not allowed to insert into the repetition of the
`Amida a prayer asking God to do anything about it, unless a good
strong rain would sweep the frogs back into the river where they came
from. It's just not the kind of prayer, that the tzibbur is allowed
to make.

Unrelated to the above, in your earlier post, you mispronounced
"seiruv".

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R' Jay F. ("Yaakov") Shachter wrote:

... Thus, if there is a local glut of unmarried people, and the
tzibbur needs shiddukhim, the shliax tzibbur may not insert a
prayer for shiddukhim in the repetition of the 'Amidah. Or if
the community is suffering from, oh let's say, a plague of frogs,
the shliax tzibbur is not allowed to insert into the repetition
of the 'Amida a prayer asking God to do anything about it, ...
It's just not the kind of prayer, that the tzibbur is allowed
to make.

Perhaps such a halacha exists, but I have not heard of it. Do you have a
source? I wonder what the reason would be for such a prohibition.

To keep the conversation going, I'll suggest another scenario, similar to
those you've mentioned. Suppose a great leader (a Rosh Yeshiva, or a
chassidic Rebbe, for example) is very ill. The community arranges a big
event, to encourage great throngs to come and pray for the leader's health.
There are many tehillim recited, many speeches given, and many tears shed.
Then the entire crowd unites to daven mincha together. When the shliax
tzibbur recites Xazaras Hashatz, can he add a tefila for the leader's
health, either in Refa'einu or in Shema Kolenu? If not, why not?

In any case, my original question (in the thread "Ha'aderes V'ha'emunah on
days other than Yom Kippur") was not about impromptu prayers for special
events. It was about established prayers that we can find in the siddur,
machzor, or elsewhere. There are many that may be said only with a minyan,
and I'm wondering if there are any (beside Ha'aderes V'ha'emunah) that may
be said only with*out* a minyan.

Akiva Miller

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The obvious analogy is to those countries that need rain when it is not needed in Bavel, and therefore Tal Umatar is not said. The halacha is that each individual in those countries should add "Vesein Tal Umatar Livracha" in Shomea` Tefillah. However the shliach tzibur does not do so, even though each individual he is representing needs rain and did pray for it in his private tefillah.

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I thought "kol hameshaneh mimatbeia shetav'u chakhamim eino ela to'eh"
refers to making it a norm.

But the similarly phrased "... bibrakhos, lo yatza yedei chovaso",
about the chasimah or whether it's a berakhah arukhah, is even once.

In personal baqashos... It is one thing to make a tefillah for cholim in
a time of need. But one isn't supposed to be inserting the Yehi Ratzon
into EVERY Refa'einu for months or years on end.

Here, IMHO the justification would be similar to that of adding baqashos
to Sh"E during Aseres Yemei Teshuvah. "Zokhreinu lechaim", "Mi Khamokha",
etc... Not the chasimos, which aren't baqashos but special seasonal
matbeios.

Which the Sha"tz says too.

So, I would think the Chazan could / should say something in Refa'einu.
But my 2 week search for meqoros turned up empty.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha